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	<title>Comments on: Vopium: Save upto 90% on international calls and international SMS</title>
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		<title>By: Luigi Fulk</title>
		<link>http://symbianworld.org/1248-vopium-save-upto-90-on-international-calls-and-international-sms/comment-page-1/#comment-118555</link>
		<dc:creator>Luigi Fulk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is getting a bit more subjective, but I much prefer the Zune Marketplace. The interface is colorful, has more flair, and some cool features like &#039;Mixview&#039; that let you quickly see related albums, songs, or other users related to what you&#039;re listening to. Clicking on one of those will center on that item, and another set of &quot;neighbors&quot; will come into view, allowing you to navigate around exploring by similar artists, songs, or users. Speaking of users, the Zune &quot;Social&quot; is also great fun, letting you find others with shared tastes and becoming friends with them. You then can listen to a playlist created based on an amalgamation of what all your friends are listening to, which is also enjoyable. Those concerned with privacy will be relieved to know you can prevent the public from seeing your personal listening habits if you so choose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is getting a bit more subjective, but I much prefer the Zune Marketplace. The interface is colorful, has more flair, and some cool features like &#8216;Mixview&#8217; that let you quickly see related albums, songs, or other users related to what you&#8217;re listening to. Clicking on one of those will center on that item, and another set of &#8220;neighbors&#8221; will come into view, allowing you to navigate around exploring by similar artists, songs, or users. Speaking of users, the Zune &#8220;Social&#8221; is also great fun, letting you find others with shared tastes and becoming friends with them. You then can listen to a playlist created based on an amalgamation of what all your friends are listening to, which is also enjoyable. Those concerned with privacy will be relieved to know you can prevent the public from seeing your personal listening habits if you so choose.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Green</title>
		<link>http://symbianworld.org/1248-vopium-save-upto-90-on-international-calls-and-international-sms/comment-page-1/#comment-120364</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 23:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is great! Saving 90% on international calls! It would be a great relief when you are talking to your loved ones without thinking how your money is suddenly vanishing. :) I also know some prepaid call cards that is giving great values to their clients.

Michelle Green,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.voxcall.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Make International Calls&lt;/a&gt;
VoxCall</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is great! Saving 90% on international calls! It would be a great relief when you are talking to your loved ones without thinking how your money is suddenly vanishing. <img src='http://symbianworld.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I also know some prepaid call cards that is giving great values to their clients.</p>
<p>Michelle Green,<br />
<a href="http://www.voxcall.com" rel="nofollow">Make International Calls</a><br />
VoxCall</p>
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		<title>By: Rohit Sharma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohit Sharma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bullshit, Once you joined they will give you best of best services you can have but after 5 - 6 months they will start ripping you off. The bloody call centre is in Pakistan. Think before you go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bullshit, Once you joined they will give you best of best services you can have but after 5 &#8211; 6 months they will start ripping you off. The bloody call centre is in Pakistan. Think before you go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: pushya</title>
		<link>http://symbianworld.org/1248-vopium-save-upto-90-on-international-calls-and-international-sms/comment-page-1/#comment-51476</link>
		<dc:creator>pushya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>u i used bestmobile saver ,it is dam good using this we can make any international call from u r mobile with  local charges</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u i used bestmobile saver ,it is dam good using this we can make any international call from u r mobile with  local charges</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://symbianworld.org/1248-vopium-save-upto-90-on-international-calls-and-international-sms/comment-page-1/#comment-47731</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used Vopium for 1 week and could never connect a call. I tried calling multiple countries both landline and cell phones but with no success.

When I emailed Vopium and told them about this they sent me emails asking questions they already knew the answer to like &quot;what numbers did you try to call&quot;. 

After a week of not being able to connect a call I asked them to refund my money. They told me that you must make a refund claim within 7 days so therefore I was not eligible.
Suddenly the time wasting emails from Vopium made sense. 

Needless to say, I will be charging back my Visa card and continue using Skype.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used Vopium for 1 week and could never connect a call. I tried calling multiple countries both landline and cell phones but with no success.</p>
<p>When I emailed Vopium and told them about this they sent me emails asking questions they already knew the answer to like &#8220;what numbers did you try to call&#8221;. </p>
<p>After a week of not being able to connect a call I asked them to refund my money. They told me that you must make a refund claim within 7 days so therefore I was not eligible.<br />
Suddenly the time wasting emails from Vopium made sense. </p>
<p>Needless to say, I will be charging back my Visa card and continue using Skype.</p>
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		<title>By: Raj</title>
		<link>http://symbianworld.org/1248-vopium-save-upto-90-on-international-calls-and-international-sms/comment-page-1/#comment-31339</link>
		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asthana you are Indian, and you wanna call pakistan to reach your famly... lolz.... fake blogging.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asthana you are Indian, and you wanna call pakistan to reach your famly&#8230; lolz&#8230;. fake blogging&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ну а что еще писать шоб не потерли? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ну а что еще писать шоб не потерли? <img src='http://symbianworld.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Asthana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asthana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried CallIndia servcie of Vopium. It was much cheaper for me than Truphone, coz i could not effort to have enough credit in my mobile before making a call. why to invest so much money if there is an alternative. I am a student and i think Vopium is a perfect solutions for Indian students like me who stdy abroad and wanna call their families in Pakistan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried CallIndia servcie of Vopium. It was much cheaper for me than Truphone, coz i could not effort to have enough credit in my mobile before making a call. why to invest so much money if there is an alternative. I am a student and i think Vopium is a perfect solutions for Indian students like me who stdy abroad and wanna call their families in Pakistan.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for introducing the service, i use to call from UK to US, Denmark and some other European countries and found that its not actually bad. it connects me with Wifi and normally charge less as compare to my local operators. When i visited their website i found that they are introducing sync feature i hope this will reduce my hassle to save the file and contacts. My mobile expenses is reduced about 50% so some what i can say that i like vopium services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for introducing the service, i use to call from UK to US, Denmark and some other European countries and found that its not actually bad. it connects me with Wifi and normally charge less as compare to my local operators. When i visited their website i found that they are introducing sync feature i hope this will reduce my hassle to save the file and contacts. My mobile expenses is reduced about 50% so some what i can say that i like vopium services.</p>
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		<title>By: bitflung</title>
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		<dc:creator>bitflung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STOP!!!! PLEASE please - you&#039;re hurting VoIP.

all of this call-through-your-local-gateway-to-get-voip nonsense is just CRAP.  why use it?  why, really, why??  you want cheap international calls?  go get them.  your post shows a fracking N95!!!  i have that same phone, half the reason i got the darn thing was for VoIP and Vopium&#039;s watered-down version (which is OLD tech) doesn&#039;t do it justice.

use Truphone, Gizmo, even a premium Vonage account.  use SOMETHING where calling through a local gateway is the exception, not the norm.  personally, i&#039;d prefer saying NO LOCAL GATEWAY EVER.  i use Gizmo - it&#039;s the cheapest.  when i dont have wifi, i use 3G.  when i don&#039;t have 3G i use EDGE (via the Fring application).  when i don&#039;t have EDGE, i dont call.

if i don&#039;t have WiFi, 3G, or EDGE - i dont have service at all.  WHY push these lousy call-through services???  so normobs and blackberry addicts can have voip too?  to hell with them - if they want voip, tell them to buy a compatible phone and then use the proper service!

this shouldn&#039;t even becalled voip at all - it should be called voip-via-gsm-proxy.  it&#039;s a broken concept that does nothing to advance the state of the art.  matter of fact, i would bet good money that handset/network managers have a hard time discussing REAL VoIP specifically because this FAKE crap gets just as much press.  imagine, &quot;hey CEO Bob, CTO Sue says we need VoIP.  What&#039;s that?  we DONT?!?, it&#039;s taken care of by some local gateway company you say?  oh, ok then Sue was wrong, we don&#039;t need it afterall then thanks&quot;.

and you miss the single greatest gift of all real VoIPs: free inbound calls.  or is USA weird for charging us for inbound calls normally?  each minute on the network costs the same, no matter who initiated the call.  i set my redirect for &#039;missed-calls&#039; to my VoIP account (actually, i use grandcentral) then i can choose how to accept an incoming call -&gt; answer the GSM call or press the red key to have it forward to my VoIP and answer it without using up airtime.

seriously - how can you even call Vopium a good idea, forgetting that the concept is so old?

*grumblegrumblegrumble*
i&#039;m in a bad mood, i may have just taken it out on you in a public forum.  i&#039;m still in a bad mood, so i&#039;m not sorry yet.  try me again in the morning, perhaps tomorrow will be a better day.

-bit

p.s. when i make a local call, it would cost me $0.06/minute through my network - but i don&#039;t pay that, i pay $0.019 through Gizmo.  all for $20/month flat-rate internet.  when i call international, say to finland as above - where you paid a total of 11 cent (what currency?) i would pay exactly $0.037 USD per minute.  and i place that call by dialing and hitting the green button (N95 set to default Internet call) when i&#039;m in wifi range or have 3G.  EDGE is the exception, and i have to use a special app like Vopium, but it is unusualy to not have wifi.

calling finland with REAL VoIP: $0.037 / minute
call finland through Vopium:   $0.06 (network) + $0.05 = $0.11 / minute

Vopium is just shy of 3x more expensive!  even JUST the so-called-voip part costs more than my whole call through gizmo!

even truphone beats vopium (truphone is EXCELLENT service, but more expensive than my voip of choice) - truphone comes in at $0.108 per minute USD - again, that&#039;s for the WHOLE call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STOP!!!! PLEASE please &#8211; you&#8217;re hurting VoIP.</p>
<p>all of this call-through-your-local-gateway-to-get-voip nonsense is just CRAP.  why use it?  why, really, why??  you want cheap international calls?  go get them.  your post shows a fracking N95!!!  i have that same phone, half the reason i got the darn thing was for VoIP and Vopium&#8217;s watered-down version (which is OLD tech) doesn&#8217;t do it justice.</p>
<p>use Truphone, Gizmo, even a premium Vonage account.  use SOMETHING where calling through a local gateway is the exception, not the norm.  personally, i&#8217;d prefer saying NO LOCAL GATEWAY EVER.  i use Gizmo &#8211; it&#8217;s the cheapest.  when i dont have wifi, i use 3G.  when i don&#8217;t have 3G i use EDGE (via the Fring application).  when i don&#8217;t have EDGE, i dont call.</p>
<p>if i don&#8217;t have WiFi, 3G, or EDGE &#8211; i dont have service at all.  WHY push these lousy call-through services???  so normobs and blackberry addicts can have voip too?  to hell with them &#8211; if they want voip, tell them to buy a compatible phone and then use the proper service!</p>
<p>this shouldn&#8217;t even becalled voip at all &#8211; it should be called voip-via-gsm-proxy.  it&#8217;s a broken concept that does nothing to advance the state of the art.  matter of fact, i would bet good money that handset/network managers have a hard time discussing REAL VoIP specifically because this FAKE crap gets just as much press.  imagine, &#8220;hey CEO Bob, CTO Sue says we need VoIP.  What&#8217;s that?  we DONT?!?, it&#8217;s taken care of by some local gateway company you say?  oh, ok then Sue was wrong, we don&#8217;t need it afterall then thanks&#8221;.</p>
<p>and you miss the single greatest gift of all real VoIPs: free inbound calls.  or is USA weird for charging us for inbound calls normally?  each minute on the network costs the same, no matter who initiated the call.  i set my redirect for &#8216;missed-calls&#8217; to my VoIP account (actually, i use grandcentral) then i can choose how to accept an incoming call -&gt; answer the GSM call or press the red key to have it forward to my VoIP and answer it without using up airtime.</p>
<p>seriously &#8211; how can you even call Vopium a good idea, forgetting that the concept is so old?</p>
<p>*grumblegrumblegrumble*<br />
i&#8217;m in a bad mood, i may have just taken it out on you in a public forum.  i&#8217;m still in a bad mood, so i&#8217;m not sorry yet.  try me again in the morning, perhaps tomorrow will be a better day.</p>
<p>-bit</p>
<p>p.s. when i make a local call, it would cost me $0.06/minute through my network &#8211; but i don&#8217;t pay that, i pay $0.019 through Gizmo.  all for $20/month flat-rate internet.  when i call international, say to finland as above &#8211; where you paid a total of 11 cent (what currency?) i would pay exactly $0.037 USD per minute.  and i place that call by dialing and hitting the green button (N95 set to default Internet call) when i&#8217;m in wifi range or have 3G.  EDGE is the exception, and i have to use a special app like Vopium, but it is unusualy to not have wifi.</p>
<p>calling finland with REAL VoIP: $0.037 / minute<br />
call finland through Vopium:   $0.06 (network) + $0.05 = $0.11 / minute</p>
<p>Vopium is just shy of 3x more expensive!  even JUST the so-called-voip part costs more than my whole call through gizmo!</p>
<p>even truphone beats vopium (truphone is EXCELLENT service, but more expensive than my voip of choice) &#8211; truphone comes in at $0.108 per minute USD &#8211; again, that&#8217;s for the WHOLE call.</p>
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